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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2006, 06:39:40 AM »

The fact that Mortimer Stevenson and the Nifong Sun wrote this means something.  This is the FIRST piece of investigative journalism done by that paper on the HOAX.  The almost immediately discredited "Mr. O story" was obviously fed to Stevenson by Linwood Wilson and was not true investigative work, and note that it is in this current piece, coming AFTER THE ELECTION, that Stevenson finally tells us that Mr. O retracted his affidavit.

I think that now that Nifong has been installed, largely as a result of their shameful abdication of any pretense of objective journalism, the Herald Sun feels that they can start truthful reporting and doing their jobs as journalists. 

I wonder who fed Stevenson this story and why now?  I suspect the N&O will follow suit with a better story. 

She is obviously on some kind of narcotics as long suspected to be passing out every night on the dance floor naked too.  What an absolute mess this woman is; she played Nifong for an absolute fool, a willing fool at that.

 

Maybe, just maybe-it is the start of Nifong's excuse to drop the case after the election has been won.  I absolutely do not think Stevenson writes anything about this case that Nifong does not approve of.  This info had to have been known before the election.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2006, 06:55:13 AM »

I think MarkR. is spot on. 

Precious lied to the police and they incorrectly reported to Nifong who only did what any good prosecutor would do, etc. blah,blah, bulls***.   And, there isn't any racism in Durham from the AA community; they just didn't want those "Yankees" telling them what to do.  Spinning, spinning, spinning...
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2006, 07:21:25 AM »

Shrewd observation MR. You should post it over at Durhamwonderland as well. All Stevenson's stuff comes straight from the sixth floor. In the past it has usually been to soften the blow of something really damaging coming up.

Meanwhile, an anonymous poster at the KC Johnson site says this:
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"Dancer: Bruises could have come from club."
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2006, 07:34:20 AM »

I give it a vanishingly short time before we're told the the use of 'club' in the headline could have meant a lacrosse stick.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2006, 07:38:15 AM »

The headline is so extreme and 360 degrees for the HS that you have to wonder what's behind it.  Nifong may be throwing the defense a bone; I don't think the defense wants to take this to court because they do fear dirty games from the prosecution that could result in one or more of the players wrongly convicted.  They do not want to gamble with these boys' lives IMO.  Or it's a preemptory strike because they know the defense is about to unleash the hounds of hell on this case.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2006, 08:26:03 AM »

1. This is Durham. There is no investigative reporting in Durham, especially when it would not be in their best interests to report the facts if the facts did not support Nifong and the agenda. There is every indication in this story that this information was known before the election. The two references to "Friday" about trying to contact people is a ploy to deceive the reader into thinking that the story "broke" on Friday. I doubt that. I suspect that this info was known at the same time the info from the bouncer and Olatoye was known...it's a package of stuff. The  HS is still up to its tricks. It did not mention that Olatoye confirmed that it WAS Precious in the video, leaving  readers with the impression that it is not known that it was she. The "tested negatively" was vague to give the impression that Precious tested negatively for drugs when the truth was that no testing of blood and urine was done at all and the hair test,as noted above by another poster, was  a LONG time after that night from a scientific viewpoint.

2. Jarriel was probably not asked about anything except the night before the party. He offered nothing else. These night workers are not buddies with the cops (except for the "privileged" criminals like Olatoye). It is also possible that no one wanted to ask more detailed questions or that they didn't think to ask about the Accuser's movements after the alleged rape (when she was supposedly in hiding).

3. Perhaps the facts about Precious dancing in the club three days after the alleged rape are deliberately being held back by the defense (presumed leak source). The final  bombshell being held in reserve? Or, maybe she wasn't. It isn't likely to matter at this point. 

4. Is it "odd" that these "managers" at the Platinum all left the club since the rape allegations? I realize that these are not likely loyal lifetime employee types, but Olatoye's retracted affadavit makes me wonder if there wasn't a deliberate attempt to remove anyone that could put a dent in the case. I realize that Olatoye's affadavit wasn't sworn  until Nifong called him up for a favor after the '60' show, then he got caught in his lie. But perhaps Olatoye and Nifong had chatted earlier and thought there was no need for an affadavit until after Bradley exposed the hoax to the world and the video was revealed?  Olatoye just eliminated the employees who could have contradicted the "evidence" that Nifong had at the time.   Yolanda Haynes' statements seem very definitive. She states there are detailed records of who works in the club and that Precious was there, but if she left in July, how does she so confidently state she was there on those specific dates if she has no access to the records? (Because she had stated this before she left employment at the club, and the defense is leaking slowly or the HS omitted this part last week.)  Were she and the bouncer interviewed before July and what they said was the reason they are no longer employed at the Club? Since '60' was in Durham preparing the piece for awhile before it was finally aired (and again for last minute interviews once the gag order was lifted in late September), did Nifong find out what '60' had found out and attempt to cover his tracks through Olatoye?

Great post!  As to #3, I have always believed that the defense always knew a whole lot more about Precious than anyone else which CERTAINLY IS going to be the biggest bombshell when released.  Now that the election is over and the power structure in Durham got what they wanted (Darth Vader still DA), look for the smoking gun to be released over the next few weeks.  I am guessing it is witnesses that Precious recanted to, a witnesses that knew Precious planned to set the team up before she went to the party, or a string of doctors/nurses/friends/coworkers who will provide wild stories told by Precious to get drugs.  It will be something big.  Unlike the other evidence the defense has released to the public (to cast a shadow of doubt on the case to help make it go away and preserve the boys reputations), they have these cards close to their vest.  We will learn about it soon and the case will then go away, I am convinced of it.

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2006, 08:26:58 AM »

Great point Twaddlefree.  You have to believe that defense investigators interviewed the manager of the club and everyone associated with the club a long time ago, certainly before July.  I assume that they have copies of the records from the club that show when Precious was dancing and probably her visits to the VIP room which the club tracks so that they can get paid by the dancer.  That would have been the first thing they would have asked for and locked down.

Now that its public, Chickens reported this back in June ( for those who were getting it,Re: the fellow dancer who was going to testify about her and her "state" at the club and how she 'acted fool)

NOW, coming soon to a media outlet near you, the fellow ESCORT ( you will all like that one much more  LOL)
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2006, 08:31:03 AM »


Great post!  As to #3, I have always believed that the defense always knew a whole lot more about Precious than anyone else which CERTAINLY IS going to be the biggest bombshell when released.  Now that the election is over and the power structure in Durham got what they wanted (Darth Vader still DA), look for the smoking gun to be released over the next few weeks.  I am guessing it is witnesses that Precious recanted to, a witnesses that knew Precious planned to set the team up before she went to the party, or a string of doctors/nurses/friends/coworkers who will provide wild stories told by Precious to get drugs.   It will be something big.  Unlike the other evidence the defense has released to the public (to cast a shadow of doubt on the case to help make it go away and preserve the boys reputations), they have these cards close to their vest.  We will learn about it soon and the case will then go away, I am convinced of it.

On the drugs, people are looking for love in all the wrong places ( she obtains her 'fix' thru other means)

As to recanting and the set up- think "less" recant and more toward the other way

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2006, 08:39:12 AM »


Great post!  As to #3, I have always believed that the defense always knew a whole lot more about Precious than anyone else which CERTAINLY IS going to be the biggest bombshell when released.  Now that the election is over and the power structure in Durham got what they wanted (Darth Vader still DA), look for the smoking gun to be released over the next few weeks.  I am guessing it is witnesses that Precious recanted to, a witnesses that knew Precious planned to set the team up before she went to the party, or a string of doctors/nurses/friends/coworkers who will provide wild stories told by Precious to get drugs.   It will be something big.  Unlike the other evidence the defense has released to the public (to cast a shadow of doubt on the case to help make it go away and preserve the boys reputations), they have these cards close to their vest.  We will learn about it soon and the case will then go away, I am convinced of it.

On the drugs, people are looking for love in all the wrong places ( she obtains her 'fix' thru other means)

As to recanting and the set up- think "less" recant and more toward the other way

Chickens Know

I think you should pretend that the chickens don't actually know. This would free them up to speculate a little further. Please?
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2006, 08:57:50 AM »

It seems like every week or two we early risers wake up to a new bombshell revelation that would seem to mean an end to the case.

Yet, like a cat with seven lives, no matter how bad the new revelation is forthe  prosecution, Nfong keeps chugging along.

What will it take to end it? Nifong and the defense have probably known about many of these things for weeks.Will he go to trial no matter what? Or is Bob right and it will end around Nov. 15 or shortly thereafter?
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2006, 09:01:58 AM »


I think you should pretend that the chickens don't actually know. This would free them up to speculate a little further. Please?

On this point, they dont have to speculate much ( I dont know ehen it will hit the general media but people can say they heard it here first)

Its known the defense started investigating her almost immediately ( no great surprise) but what is "less" well known ( the only one i have seen alluding to this is tryton) she has a 'reputation" among her peers ( fellow dancers and other escorts)- she is not well liked, has a reputation for being 'unstable and undependable", is out for HER benefit at the expense of others and feels she is 'special" because of some of her associates.

It was NOT difficult in the first weeks to get valuable information about her and its no secret to locals, the defense or Nifong

There is MUCH more yet to be revealed about her "unsavory"conduct
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2006, 09:08:47 AM »

It seems like every week or two we early risers wake up to a new bombshell revelation that would seem to mean an end to the case.

Yet, like a cat with seven lives, no matter how bad the new revelation is forthe  prosecution, Nfong keeps chugging along.

What will it take to end it? Nifong and the defense have probably known about many of these things for weeks.Will he go to trial no matter what? Or is Bob right and it will end around Nov. 15 or shortly thereafter?

Months actually ( it was "old" when the chickens reported on it in June)

Nifong is going to trial- no matter what

Remember, Nifong doesnt know all the defense knows but he DOES know the "general" and "public" activities of the AV ( one thing i have said for months- she has made NO attempt to keep them a secret) so Nifong had continued forth KNOWING what she is doing, KNOWING the defense knows and KNOWING he will face it in court.

I guarantee you Nifong has a plan- he is NOT backing down, he will NOT drop this case and he is in it to WIN
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2006, 09:09:51 AM »


Great post!  As to #3, I have always believed that the defense always knew a whole lot more about Precious than anyone else which CERTAINLY IS going to be the biggest bombshell when released.  Now that the election is over and the power structure in Durham got what they wanted (Darth Vader still DA), look for the smoking gun to be released over the next few weeks.  I am guessing it is witnesses that Precious recanted to, a witnesses that knew Precious planned to set the team up before she went to the party, or a string of doctors/nurses/friends/coworkers who will provide wild stories told by Precious to get drugs.   It will be something big.  Unlike the other evidence the defense has released to the public (to cast a shadow of doubt on the case to help make it go away and preserve the boys reputations), they have these cards close to their vest.  We will learn about it soon and the case will then go away, I am convinced of it.

On the drugs, people are looking for love in all the wrong places ( she obtains her 'fix' thru other means)





As to recanting and the set up- think "less" recant and more toward the other way

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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2006, 09:15:57 AM »

Yes, LT, months ago you spoke of Precious's co-workers and what they'd tell...as well as how disliked Old Precious is/was by almost everyone she works with.  As for Nifong *still* going to trial despite this (because he must know just how unsavory Precious is, even if he tries not to uncover any of that unsavoryness), this is what worries me more than anything...it does point to some kind of nefarious plan on his part, because knowing everything that is out there about Precious, how big a dirtbag she is (so sorry, AV supporters, but that's exactly what she is), and still plodding on does not bode well for the guys...he is acting confident when logic says he has NOTHING to be confident of...but LT keeps assuring me that the defense has a plan, too...and since the defense is working for good, I have to hope that good overcomes evil (not to mention, the defense imo will run rings around Fong and his motley crew...they have too much to keep track of, given how all they've done is lie and mislead)...
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2006, 09:22:14 AM »

Yes, LT, months ago you spoke of Precious's co-workers and what they'd tell...as well as how disliked Old Precious is/was by almost everyone she works with.  As for Nifong *still* going to trial despite this (because he must know just how unsavory Precious is, even if he tries not to uncover any of that unsavoryness), this is what worries me more than anything...it does point to some kind of nefarious plan on his part, because knowing everything that is out there about Precious, how big a dirtbag she is (so sorry, AV supporters, but that's exactly what she is), and still plodding on does not bode well for the guys...he is acting confident when logic says he has NOTHING to be confident of...but LT keeps assuring me that the defense has a plan, too...and since the defense is working for good, I have to hope that good overcomes evil (not to mention, the defense imo will run rings around Fong and his motley crew...they have too much to keep track of, given how all they've done is lie and mislead)...



Thank you Emmy.  What are the "chickens"?
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