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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2007, 11:24:54 AM »

 Not only does the accusers name,sexual history, military history, medical and psycological history, employment history, criminal and misdemeanor history, reputation, and student history continuue to get dragged thru the mud on a daily basis; we also have the history of her entire family that is researched, investigated, and made fun of every day. And we are debating the need for rape shield protection on another thread?
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2007, 11:35:14 AM »

Not only does the accusers name,sexual history, military history, medical and psycological history, employment history, criminal and misdemeanor history, reputation, and student history continuue to get dragged thru the mud on a daily basis; we also have the history of her entire family that is researched, investigated, and made fun of every day. And we are debating the need for rape shield protection on another thread?
And what was done to the accused? For example, Finnerty was tried for assault, and convicted, even though he did not actually physically struck the victim, and the victim was not gay, yet frequently this assault is reffered to as a gay bashing incident, and Finnerty as some sort of gay basher. Dave was also tried on some minor charge and convicted of that, even though Flannery was found not guilty in the same incident. And Reade was called "rapist" when he went to court.
Do you not think the reputations of accused suffered irreparabely?  Even if the charges are dropped, what about their reputations? How could they ever get their reputations back? Maybe we need accused shield law.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2007, 12:04:43 PM »

But not to this thread.

Finnerty has no record in DC, it was expunged.

Yup. Immy gets it wrong again.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2007, 12:24:53 PM »

Not only does the accusers name,sexual history, military history, medical and psycological history, employment history, criminal and misdemeanor history, reputation, and student history continuue to get dragged thru the mud on a daily basis;

Those things didn't get dragged through the mud, they were already lying in the dirt to begin with.

Fact is, it's important to look into a person's history of misdeeds to ascertain whether their statements may or may not be credible, and doubly so in this case when it's only the supposed "victim's" statements that this whole ludicrous farce hinges.

It's important to know her criminal history because it solidifies her powerful motive to lie; she apprehended by police before she made the rape accusations which conveniently got her out of trouble. Also it's important to know that she filed an eerily similar complaint against a group of guys some years ago that went nowhere.

It's important to know that she's a prostitute and had the DNA of other men on her person because it A) puts the lie to her claim that she did not have sex in the preceding week and B) lets us know how ridiculously unlikely it would be for three men to have raped her,  as per accounts 1-5 of the night in question, without leaving DNA.

As for the gendershifting cousin in question, it's important to know that she's a low character and a lying dirtbag because of the many ludicrous claims she's made on TV, such as mysterious and shadowy Duke alums offering Precious 2 million to drop the charges.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2007, 12:40:56 PM »

But not to this thread.

Finnerty has no record in DC, it was expunged.

Yup. Immy gets it wrong again.

I didn't say he had a record.  I said his conviction is more relevant to this case than Clyde's charge.  We know from Finnerty's trial, that resulted in a conviction, how he has behaved while drinking. His own witness reported it was Finnerty who would not let the confrontation end.

btw - Finnerty has a record, the accessibility of that record has been limited.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2007, 12:44:02 PM »


btw - Finnerty has a record, the accessibility of that record has been limited.[/color]

So, the conviction wasn't reversed/vacated AND the record expunged?
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2007, 12:49:22 PM »

So, the conviction wasn't reversed/vacated AND the record expunged?

Yes, it was vacated.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2007, 12:51:47 PM »

Bessy asks,

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How could they ever get their reputations back?

Maybe by telling the whole truth about what each one did and saw and heard from the time the dance ended until the time the dancers left the premises?  Assuming of course that their actions were in keeping with a good reputation.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2007, 12:53:39 PM »

But not to this thread.

Finnerty has no record in DC, it was expunged.

Yup. Immy gets it wrong again.

I didn't say he had a record.  I said his conviction is more relevant to this case than Clyde's charge.  We know from Finnerty's trial, that resulted in a conviction, how he has behaved while drinking. His own witness reported it was Finnerty who would not let the confrontation end.

btw - Finnerty has a record, the accessibility of that record has been limited.


Just using my common sense again, however he has no conviction if his case was expunged, right?  So why are you propagating this lie?
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2007, 12:54:12 PM »

Actually, the best way for the boys' names to be cleared will be when the ACCUSER decides to tell the whole truth about that night.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2007, 12:55:37 PM »

Bessy asks,

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How could they ever get their reputations back?

Maybe by telling the whole truth about what each one did and saw and heard from the time the dance ended until the time the dancers left the premises?  Assuming of course that their actions were in keeping with a good reputation.

Oh please Lora.  The whole truth?  The whole truth is nothing happened and the FA is a dirty, opportunistic liar that ran a eerily similar scam a few years earlier.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2007, 01:23:43 PM »

Bessy asks,

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How could they ever get their reputations back?

Maybe by telling the whole truth about what each one did and saw and heard from the time the dance ended until the time the dancers left the premises?  Assuming of course that their actions were in keeping with a good reputation.
How would either Reade or Collin know what happened after the dance ended until the time the dancers  left the premises? Reade left soon after the dance, and the claim is Collin also has an alibi. What do you think they can possibly say? And Dave already gave interview to the DPD to tell them all he knew.
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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2007, 01:32:33 PM »

So, the conviction wasn't reversed/vacated AND the record expunged?

Yes, it was vacated.

Then, if it was vacated and expunged, there's no conviction and no record of one.  Yes?

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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2007, 01:36:16 PM »

So, the conviction wasn't reversed/vacated AND the record expunged?

Yes, it was vacated.

Then, if it was vacated and expunged, there's no conviction and no record of one.  Yes?




To be fair we should compare it to the expunged records of the "dancers" and the AV's family. I will do so in the yellow box.

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Re: What a find! Cousin Jakki in court Monday
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2007, 01:55:40 PM »

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we also have the history of her entire family that is researched, investigated, and made fun of every day

Clyde maintains s/he is the family spokesperson. 

Clyde also floated the unproven claim that a $2 million dollars bribe was offered to the AV to make the story go away. 

Clyde also floated the idea that the AV's conception date was the night of the HOAX.

This person deserves ridicule!
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